(keitai-l) Rispondi: Re: Rispondi: Re: Nokia and Motorola to enter the Japanese market with Vodafone

From: Giovanni Bertani <giovanni.bertani_at_exsense.com>
Date: 12/03/03
Message-Id: <200312031307.hB3D7L9N011583@gmoblmail3.net.vodafone.it>
Is there in Japan any Keitai with 
istallable applications, pop3 and imap 
clients (Not limited to the operator
e-mail service) full web browser and
 office documents readers?

I think you have to turn to a Pda for this.

Vertical customized mobile terminals
are another segment than general
business phones.

Apple has showed how japanese firms 
sometimes have limited innovation
by defining the digital walkmann
and capturing most of the JP market.

In the same way I think in the future
we could see some interesting
western products entering the Keitai
market.

The market is very different 
anyway.
___
Giovanni Bertani

...... Messaggio Originale .......
Su Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:32:15 +0900 Gerhard Fasol <fasol@eurotechnology.com> 
scritto:
>Giovanni: you have not seen, because you do not live in Japan, I guess.
>But there are a lot of "business focused" keitai in Japan. For
>example, the guy who comes to do the electricity bill has a specialized
>keitai for electriciy billing linked to the central electricity bill
>computer etc etc etc etc
>
>it's not that there are no such keitais, it's more that foreign
>media don't look at all the details of Japan.
>
>Also: there is a difference in the tax laws. In Europe generally the
>taxes are HUGE, so that people in Europe get company cars, company
>keitais etc etc etc. In Japan people often buy these things from
>their own pocket...
>
>Gerhard
>
>
>Giovanni Bertani wrote:
>> Yes this is strange I have not seen a
>>  really business focused keitai in 
>> Japan. They all look like more or 
>> less target to cosumer differing only
>> in more or less advanced media 
>> focused features.
>> 
>> ___
>> Giovanni Bertani
>> 
>> ...... Messaggio Originale .......
>> Su Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:44:33 +0900 "Nick May" <nick@kyushu.com> scritto:
>> 
>>>While obviously sympathetic to the tone of general derision of your post,
>>>it WOULD be nice were one able to get an SSH session from one's phone.
>>>
>>>Some foreign phones can manage this, I gather - though no Japanese ones
>>>as far as I am aware.
>>>
>>>And for all their feature richness, Japanese phones are still TOO THICK!
>>>Which is why nothing to date has tempted me beyond my P504i.
>>>
>>>Nick
>>>
>>>
>>>keitai-l@appelsiini.net,Internet writes:
>>>>From the article:
>>>
>>>>   The company had a bitter experience in losing subscribers after
>>>>   it reduced the number of the types of the handsets used for its
>>>>   service. Learning a lesson from the experience, it will prepare a
>>>>   wide variety of mobile phones for its third-generation (3G) service
>>>>   by introducing foreign-made handsets.
>>>>
>>>>Ha, good luck! I don't think that bringing in foreign handsets that
>>>>don't even begin to compare to the Japanese ones is going to do any
>>>>good. How many of them will have QVGA, megapixel cameras, memory
>>>>cards, Java, and other cool features. Certainly the above (with the
>>>>exception of Java for the lower-end models) are now pretty much a
>>>>minimum requirement for a new phone these days, I think.
>>>>
>>>>cjs
>>>>-- 
>>>>Curt Sampson  <cjs_at_cynic.net>   +81 90 7737 2974   http://www.NetBSD.org
>>>>   Don't you know, in this new Dark Age, we're all light.  --XTC
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