IMO, having all data in the network would work, as long as there are client
applications on the handset to cache the data, provided rich graphics and
interactivity and integrate with local device functionality (messaging,
GSM operators first tried the centralised model using WAP (i.e. Thin browser
on the device) and walled garden (data in network only), but it failed.
Client-software-driven portals (i.e. On-device portals) are now accepted as
In other words the trend is for data to be decentralised throughout the
internet (i.e. open or sticky gardens), with a rich client that renders the
data and provides interactivity, connectivity with the device, etc.
The two most prominent proofs for this decentralisation are Yahoo! Go for
Mobile (v2) and Nokia's Content Discoverer (the evolution of Preminet).
Google already has their Google Maps for Mobile app, with more apps
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On 19/1/07 10:36, "Craig Kovatch" <cromas_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, computing started as centralized (with terminals connected to a
> server), but that method was abandoned because of lack of bandwidth,
> connection reliability, etc.
> These were the same guys coming up with things like UNIX, which is
> still considered the best operating system foundation, living on in OS
> X, Linux, etc. In other words, I'm sure they knew what they were doing
> when they went for client/server access, it's just the technology
> hadn't caught up with them.
> But fourty years later, that's no longer a problem. I think we are
> moving back to centralization, but at least technologically, I don't
> think that's necessarily a step backwards. Privacy and
> security-wise...it's a toss-up.
> As for mobile carriers...hmm. Data plans in America are still
> ridiculously expensive in my mind, but realistically, they are about
> the same as Japan. It's just less societally normal to spend so much
> money on your phone in the states. I hear that some European carriers
> offer unlimited data for the equivalent of about $20/month. But I also
> hear the European 3G network is crap.
> hmm ramble finished. ok bye.
> On 1/19/07, Nick May <nick_at_kyushu.com> wrote:
>> This is just rumour/hype/vapourware, etc....
>> But I am curious as to whether people think the idea - having all
>> apps/data on the network - would fly?
>> I am skeptical - whatever google knows about you, it would appear the
>> US government can know probably about you just by whispering the word
>> "terrorism" in google's shell like ear. Which rather puts me off.
>> It's not just privacy concerns - it seems to be a backward step to
>> keep apps stored centrally.
>> Would carriers go for it? Lots more data transfers, true, but it
>> relegates them to "data pipe"status.
>> Any thoughts?
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