(keitai-l) Re: business vs. consumer use

This can easily become a "religious" discussion, but most people agree on
the Xerox Alto as being the worlds first PC (late 70's).

Kristian 

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Eric Hildum [mailto:Eric_Hildum@itochu.net] 
Sent:	Saturday, November 04, 2000 4:35
To:	keitai-l@appelsiini.net
Subject:	(keitai-l) Re: business vs. consumer use

As a former employee of Digital, I would argue that in fact the first PCs
were really the PDP 8 and 11/70 series. In fact, I can recall a PDP11/70 in
a notebook that we had in about 1982. (Based on the T11 chipset as I
recall.) Thus, I don't think you can count PC's as counter examples....

Eric Hildum

> From: d_isenberg@triangletech.com
> Reply-To: keitai-l@appelsiini.net
> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:01:07 +0200
> To: <keitai-l@appelsiini.net>
> Subject: (keitai-l) Re: business vs. consumer use
> 
> Jeffrey:
> 
> How about the first PC's - TRS-80, Commodore, Apple, Atari??  Have two
> beers.
> 
> Daniel Isenberg
> CEO, Triangle Technologies
> www.triangletech.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: keitai-l-bounce@appelsiini.net
> [mailto:keitai-l-bounce@appelsiini.net]On Behalf Of jeffrey funk
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:05 AM
> To: 'keitai-l@appelsiini.net'
> Subject: (keitai-l) business vs. consumer use
> 
> 
> Ren and Gerhard,
> 
> Thank you so much for your good examples! I do not believe that business
use
> always proceeds consumer use. I asked the question because when I made a
> presentation about I-mode at an e-commerce conference in DC in september,
> many people (mostly academics) flat out disagreed with me. They said that
> business use always proceeds consumer use and thus I-mode is an exception,
> the japanese are just weird, and business use will proceed consumer use on
> the mobile internet in the US. I was surprised by the reaction and I
didn't
> have any good examples to rebut their arguments with. Now I do! To
> summarize, it sounds like mini-disc, flat panel screens (TVs before
> monitors), CD and tape walkman, blue LEDs, shape-memory alloys, and
probably
> many others were used in consumer applications before business
applications.
> I feel like celebrating with a few beers!
> 
> Jeffrey L. Funk
> Associate Professor
> Kobe University
> Graduate School of Business
> 2-1 Rokkodai, Nada, Kobe 657 Japan
> telephone and fax: 81-78-803-6913
> home phone: 81-798-74-2440
> e-mail: funk@rose.rokkodai.kobe-u.ac.jp
> mobile phone: 090-4906-3113
> 
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