(keitai-l) Re: Java running into trouble on cell phones?

From: Jon Ellis <jon.ellis_at_sun.com>
Date: 09/05/02
Message-ID: <3D76EACE.8030305@sun.com>
Thanks for your comments. I'll forward them on to the MIDP 
and wireless toolkit folks.

Cheers

j.

tek1 wrote:
> at least in japan, the biggest problem that i see is docomo's doja being 
> almost completely different from the standard midp, which jphone, au, and 
> all other mobile java phones support.
> 
> the variations due to hardware (i.e. screen size, color, etc.) are to be 
> expected.  color is not so much an issue, but the article mentioned screen 
> size as a major difficulty for developers.  for regular (non-game) apps, 
> midp needs to come up with a layout manager to handle this (currently, 
> there's none).  doja does a nice (first attempt) job to deal with this 
> problem by using an html layout, but it's non-standard.
> 
> sun needs to be faster in implementing standards and more aggressive in 
> making sure that the carriers/phones follow the standard.
> 
> it would be nice to have an ide (or ide plugin) that allows us developers 
> to develop to a generic device, click which devices we want to create an 
> app for, generate the apps, and run each app in its device-specific 
> emulator for testing.  the j2me toolkit (forte integration) that sun offers 
> is a nice first attempt, but it doesn't support doja.  each carrier/phone 
> should release its emulator as a plugin also, so that the plugin can be 
> dropped into the ide (forte+j2me toolkit) of our choice for testing.
> 
> hopefully someone at sun is listening...
> 
> 
> 
> At 13:10 02/09/04 -0700, you wrote:
> 
> 
>>While I don't have experience with Java on the mobile side,
>>the article does echo what I've experienced with Java on the
>>desktop side -- write once, test everywhere.
>>
>>James Santagata
>>
>>A U D I E N C E T R A X
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>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Phil Suh" <phil@filsa.net>
>>To: <keitai-l@appelsiini.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 11:39 AM
>>Subject: (keitai-l) Java running into trouble on cell phones?
>>
>>
>>
>>>I thought this CNET article would be of interest to list members:
>>>
>>>  http://news.com.com/2100-1033-956351.html?tag=cd_mh
>>>
>>>  "Java on mobile platforms is not living up to the promise of letting
>>>programmers "write once, run anywhere," according to developers gathered
>>>in London last week."
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Phil Suh
>>
>>
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Received on Thu Sep 5 08:28:50 2002