This looks exactly like the device representation (WURFL) thats been developed on the wmlprogramming yahoo mailing list. We did change the group tags from <ui_group> </ui_group> to <group id="ui"> </group> to reduce the number of XML elements. and ease parsing. Mick www.3tl.com -----Original Message----- From: Nick May Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:39 PM oops - this version should parse properly http://kyushu.com/hiss/kis.xml nickReceived on Wed Feb 27 11:55:42 2002