(keitai-l) Re: SMS vs mobile email

From: David Harper <dharper_at_wirelessink.com>
Date: 12/01/05
Message-Id: <1133407855.309F1CEF@bc12.dngr.org>
With all due respect -

The URL-plug Gerhard mentions for a company called "Appelsiini Finland 
Oy"  doesn't mention the company it is merely an unsubscribe link. 
http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/
A necessary part of running a list and in no way "commercial" in tone or 
objective. Unless you're unsubscribing who would ever click on it? 
Besides it's hardly noticible. I think Appelsiini should be recognized 
for the great service they provide - never have I felt that they are 
taking advantage or trying to benefit from the relationship. My data is 
protected. I have never been spammed.

As far as Google mentions. The majority of the world "Googles" for info 
(For anyone counting that's 2 plugs for Google in this sentence, opps 
now 3). Just look at the traffic logs for any web site - which search 
engine sends the most traffic to your site. You guessed it. ...but I 
won't say it 'cause that would make 4 mentions. Have I ever noticed 
"them" brought up in a "commercial" way? No. Not really. No more then 
the need to mention a carrier when talking about that carrier.

As for the information vendors....

I don't find them as tolerable as Nick. Thay should chill with the 
constant sales pitch.

Cheers,
Dave Harper



On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 9:07 pm, Gerhard Fasol wrote:
> Nick- thank you.
>
> My thinking is that everybody on this list has some commercial
> reason for taking part in the list - unless he/she is s total
> "keitai-otaku".
>
> I object that plugs promoting big companies with powerful
> brandnames and publicly traded shares are acceptable
> (e.g.: "look this up on Google" is a commercial plug for a big company)
> while similar plugs for smaller companies are rejected.
>
> Also, at the bottom of every keitai-l email I receive there
> is a URL-plug for a company called "Appelsiini Finland Oy" -
> I don't object to that since I guess they sponsor the free
> server and moderating service, but I feel that if plugs for
> the company Appelsiini Finland Oy, Google etc are permitted,
> then why should we not be able to information which our
> company has on our own server when it applies to questions
> asked?
> Also regarding the charging of fees for some of our reports:
> who says that all information in this world should be
> available without charge? This is not possible.
>
> Gerhard
>
> Nick May wrote:
>>  Eurotech plugs are - ah -  traditional.  Google likes to be tossed
>>  fresh meat every so often.
>>  Speaking for myself, (I.e, someone with no say over list policy/
>>  moderation) I think on balance Gerhard chucks out enough useful free
>>  info of interest (to me, at least) to make the ODD implicit plug  -
>>  tolerable ....
>>
>>  Note that as far as google is concerned, your complaint is just
>>  another plug...
>>
>>  Nick
>>
>>> Shouldn稚 the plugging of businesses and services be avoided on a
>>> public, board ? Ive only been a member of this list for a few days and
>>> http://www.eurotechnology.com has been plugged too many times.
>>
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Received on Thu Dec 1 05:31:02 2005