From: "Carl Schon" <carlschon@excite.com> > What plazmic is doing is much more compeling on a keitai. A brief tour of http://www.plazmic.com was unenlightening on the issue of how much they had to subset SVG to fit it in 10K. I've signed up to the developers' list, maybe that'll help. This has been a keitai-l topic before, please note. Jay (wirelessjava@yahoo.com) mentions it first: http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2001-06/0063.html ...and Henry Minsky doubts its practicality: http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2001-06/0064.html Ben Hutchings says that compression problems (which Henry raises as a source of issues) are probably not the stumbling block: http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2001-06/0068.html ...but sees room for other formats simply because the SVG rendering model is so complex: http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2001-06/0069.html http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2000-12/0247.html Some almost-off-topic meanderings about compression (including my own, mercifully elided) nevertheless lead to: http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2001-06/0076.html ... where Zev Blut points us (back in June) to...Plazmic. There's also: http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2001-06/0206.html ...where Dave Collier mentions a possible 3wc effort on an SDVG ("Small Device Vector Graphic") format. And something called "bitflash". (?) Jonathan Shore also doubts that this can be made very fast at the moment: http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2001-06/0065.html ...though he feels it wins on programmability: http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2000-12/0253.html Juergen points out that there's some pretty fast J-Phone graphics, but no clear picture on whether they use SVG or not: http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2001-06/0066.html I saw a dancing-girl animation on Sam Joseph's (sam@neurogrid.com) SH07 J-Phone, but he couldn't tell me if it was rendered on the fly or a GIF animation or something else. With space for 50K of Java, I guess you could do a lot, though. Others have been similarly impressed: http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/archives/2001-06/0067.html And 50K is probably enough to do a decent subset of extant SVG viewers -- though I haven't checked. -michael turner leap@gol.com [ Need archives? How to unsubscribe? http://www.appelsiini.net/keitai-l/ ]Received on Sat Aug 25 18:38:29 2001